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as we read the holy bible there are many time mentioned that every time a prophet pray there would be a direct light that will surround them and the will be lost in the mountains without seeing their bodies again and as our bible mention nobody see the face of god.and if its true that this beings from other planet is thousand years advance to us in terms of technology then i think we will have problem in our religion and faith once it will be confirmed of their existence

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Isn’t it interesting that “normal” people will fervently believe and assert until death their religion which is based on myth while ignoring and denying alien craft flying through Earth’s atmosphere. Apparently, childhood religious indoctrination effectively negates common sense in adults of all ages! Earth’s environment will not continue indefinitely to support humanities’ survival. A global catastrophe (virus, bacteria, meteorite, comet, ice age, axis shift, or other) will at sometime in the future kill off all humans on Earth. We can either begin to think like the aliens that visit us, develop their technologies and perpetuate the human race or accept the fact that at some time in the not to distant future all of our children will be dead. Humanity will be extinct!

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Alien craft have really REALLY zigzagged thru our atmosphere. Read the UFO reports in books, on line and elsewhere. Draw your own conclusions. Don’t be a sniveling, wimpy, crybaby expecting others to do the research and then prove something to you. If you don’t have the brains to do your own research, you probably don’t have the brains to understand someone else’s conclusions either.

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Alien craft have really REALLY zigzagged thru our atmosphere. Read the UFO reports in books, on line and elsewhere. Draw your own conclusions. Don’t be a sniveling, wimpy, crybaby expecting others to do the research and then prove something to you. If you don’t have the brains to do your own research, you probably don’t have the brains to understand someone else’s conclusions either.

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Aliens are actually demons.

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Aliens are actually demons.

If a mass UFO sighting happened (which I guess it has) It would not change my faith. Aliens are actually demon anyway, it's all demonic trickery, and most ppl have been fooled by it. I read about a man who spoke the name of Jesus during his abduction and the aliens vanished. That is because they were demons and not aliens. I am sure alien abduction is how the rapture is going to be explained.

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Since no one has ever seen GOD, believing is necessary in order to accept GOD and religion. Many people have seen aliens and alien craft, so believing in them isn’t necessary. They are fact.

My opinion....if it matters to anyone..

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In the Bible, there aren't any other planets mentioned. The "heavens" are the sun, moon and stars. Of course, we know today what people in those times didn't-there are other planets out there. Taking this into consideration, not only does it NOT mention any other planets but it also does not mention the possibility of whether or not there's life on these other planets.
As human beings, who are we to think that we are so "special" that we would be the only living beings on ONE planet among MILLIONS..maybe BILLIONS?? Why wouldn't there be living beings on another planet? Just because we can't get there doesn't mean they aren't out there! Personally, I've never had an "alien" encounter so I can't say for sure if there are any out there. I put it in this context: Many people-without ever having seen HIM-believe in Jesus Christ so, why not believe in alien life forms we've never seen??
I'm not going to say who's right or wrong concerning their beliefs in Jesus Christ or in aliens on other planets, I just wonder how someone can believe in one thing they've never personally seen and be totally convinced that something else doesn't exist just because they've never seen them?

Immature, childish thinking is the real reason for ME and religion!

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I have never been on a spacecraft! My son Jesus and his disciples, Moses and the Jewish prophets have never been on a spacecraft!

Philip Capotosto, you are a fake, a pretender, an imposture and a JOKE!!!

U.F.O.'S, not a problem for the church in anyway at all.

I am a contactee. I was with the Holy Angels of God. They told me that Go Almighty spends most of his time aboard his SPACESHIP, along with Jesus and Moses and all the Jewish prophets. They (the Holy Angels) they told me that I am the chosen one. Back in July 22nd, 1989, and today I am preaching Matthew 24:28, they told me it's the DEAD body of Jesus. Remember, Jesus is talking about himself in Matthew 24:28. You'll also find this six other Holy Scriptures, Job 39:30, Daniel 9:26, Luke 17:37, Zaphaniah 1:8, Revelation 7:14, Revelation 1:5. They also said that the reason for the creation of the Human is to record the unholy ones, then later study it, on their good time. Because, it's never been done before. Because,People in Heaven are always born Holy and never had the chance to find out about the unholy ones. To watch and record and to abduct Humans to find out about the unholy BRAIN. So, tell the world, God and Jesus and Moses and all the Jewish prophets all live on SPACESHIPS.
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If hunters and military would stop chasing and shooting at UFO’s, maybe other more civilized human beings could attempt a civil dialog with these alien visitors. However, I don’t think these Aliens would “give a damned” about Father Gabriel Funes finding them free from “original sin”!! It all sounds like a ploy to either convert Aliens to Catholicism or, maybe and more likely, a ploy to convince humans (especially, members of the Roman Catholic Church) that the power and authority of the Vatican could extend over Aliens too. The previous poster, SAGE, said it best, “Perhaps aliens have matured enough to accept their own mortality” and probably have no need for belief in religions and no need for a belief in God.

UFOs and the bible -- Has anyone ever read the bible? Carefully?

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Once the remaining ancient texts are examined, striking parallels emerge between them and the UFO phenomena (including abduction phenomena).

Some of the most common and consistent UFO/abduction phenomena include: a feeling of overwhelming dread with physical paralysis and mental control; a saucer (or plate or bowl) shaped object, often with lights; a beam of glistening light from below the saucer; several beings that descend or ascend along this beam; some mysterious medical procedures that appear to involve implanting devices through the nose, ear or above the eye, etc.; often a theatric display of images of destruction on a global scale; and demonstrations of breeding of fetuses with the use of human female hosts and human hybrid genetic material.

As unlikely as these phenomena are, they occur repeatedly in a wide variety of ways in the biblical prophecies, often in very great detail. There are dozens of verses that use ancient biblical Hebrew and Aramaic images and metaphors to describe these modern phenomena.

For instance, the abduction beam below the saucer is depicted literally dozens of times -- Jacob's Ladder is a retelling of the classical abduction scenario, with isolation of the abductee, a sense of dread and awe, and beings ascending and descending a "ramp".

There are several visions of a glowing saucer with lights, atop a glowing pillar, likened to a dish of gold with burning oil lights. Entering Solomon's Temple, people passed between two huge columns (large enough to contain someone, representing the abduction beam again), at the top of which were huge "bowls" (or saucers).

In Ezekiel 9, a detachment of beings armed with a "weapon" were sent out to put a marker in (the same word is used for "in" as "on") those who regretted the violations of the Levitical laws of ethics; they were then ordered to go out a second time forcibly remove those without the mark who were corrupt and treacherous. This mass removal of undesirables from Earth is a scenario repeated many times in the prophecies, and the images associated with these mass destructions are often found in both the prophecies and in modern abduction accounts.

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Genetics plays a role in dozens of places in prophecies. Isaiah 54 is essentially an identical, detailed retelling of the "breeding program" in Jacob's book, "The Threat".

With hundreds of thousands of documented abductions and UFO sightings, photos of aliens are essentially non-existent; and one of the biblical commands forbids making an image of God (or presumably also of his messengers) -- no one can stop an artist from making a drawing, but cameras seem to be effectively prevented from forming such images.

The list could go on and on. But the prophecies are not that difficult to comprehend once Paul of Tarsus is removed along with rules invented by humans about God and religion.

The UFO/abduction/alien phenomena are consistent with what is described in the prophecies. The closer these are examined, the more consistent they are found to be. The "end time" scenario in prophecy takes very careful reading, but is consistent with UFO accounts. The prophecies have one great advantage -- they describe in exhaustive detail the entire "alien agenda" and even give a detailed time line. Most of the focus is on a specific type of ethical integrity, and this is described in very great detail. Although the language is ancient and limited, it describes astrophysics, special relativity, and genetics with some very apt and creative imagery. There are so many details that alternative explanations are quickly ruled out.

Some abductees have noted a curious attitude regarding alien's refusal to answer questions. This might be related to our resistance to studying the messages in the prophecies that would answer the questions -- we seem to prefer to turn our backs to the carefully prepared instructions by these messengers and instead blindly trust what misguided humans tell us, whether they are the currently popular intellectual elite or revered religious leaders. (Many of us would be offended by such unthinking, ungrateful behavior if we were the ones expending the effort. Network managers in the past had a saying about such negligence: RTFM -- Read The F***** Manual.)

To SAGE:

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Accepting one's mortality is a mark of maturity!

If we accept the possibility that we are all mortal and death is the end of existence, just like birth was the beginning of existence, is there a need for religion or a need for God? Perhaps aliens have matured enough to accept their own mortality!

Religion and UFO's

Since i have begun to believe in and research UFO's more and more, i seemed to have been questioning religion, indirectly due to the goverments reactions and directly due to what other beings may mean to the Bible's words. I do not want to sound like a Marxist, but religion is a very convenient way to supress the population, an opiate of the masses if you will, (at least current religions). Religion has been the cause of many wars and misunderstandings. It is actually keeping us from uniting as THE human race. I do not think extraterrestrials have a religion but i also believe they know much more than we do about our universe. If there is a creator, we could not imagine what that truly may be, and they can teach us.
(please excuse me if i sound ignorant or am generalizing/mispercieving, i am only 16)

Extraterrestrials and Religon

Here's my theory:
A long time ago, ETs visited Earth.The general public believed that they were gods, thus the start of religon. However, later events following the "gods'" departure was a mixture of myth and real, Earthly happenings, with the possible occasional ET intervention.

suggestion

Please refer to the "Book of Enoch" which is one of the oldest writings in biblical history of which fragments have been found in Qumran(Dead Sea Scrolls). The Book of Enoch was considered prophetic by the early Christian church and considered Holy Scripture. It is also known as the "Ethiopic Book of Enoch". In it you will find many UFO references but most importantly it talks about "The Watchers" who descend upon the earth and cause mischief by creating hybrid human/watchers. It is an amazing account. Not at all disimilar to today's ufo abduction phenomenon and pretty frightening. It is still considered Holy Scripture in today's Ethiopic Orthodox Church.

More scientists are needed right now!

The many credible UFO sightings already recorded are good scientific evidence.

Emotional religious people by nature can believe or disbelieve anything. Consider the many different religions that currently exist. A bigger problem is the small number of unemotional, objective, open minded people who will become scientists.

The lack of young people taking up a career in science is a really big problem for the United States, and these are very good paying jobs too!

will releigion come to a war with science?

if science does somehow prove that extraterrestrials are rea, then what will happen to all of the releigious nonbeleivers?

GOD SAID DO IT MY WAY ?

At the end of the day why is so much argument been made about a vehicle that is capable of traveling between different planet because it is probably common day practiced in various other parts of the creation and its no big deal any more than a primitive tribe in any remote region of the planet been asked if it is all right to put an International Airport in their back gardens.

Having a hundred percent evident that interstellar space vehicles exist or not is a tricking predicament if there is intelligent life on other planets or whether we perceive it as being good or evil is a matter of one's perception considering one's moral standards.

All those people who have never claimed to have met face-to-face with visitors from outer space or might not of been invited on board such a space vehicle will find themselves in a tricky predicament concerning the rest of the world's population because they are going to be subjected to much suspicion especially when they are not in procession of any physical evidence.

If you know the where about of any space vehicle factories sites it would be very useful but if you're just a speculator this may sound fascinating and stimulate your curiosity sadly many are involved in years of mental speculation maybe the government is keeping there a new weird alien friends secret or maybe their scare of losing their hold on civilization.

Their Hollywood film factory has left it up to your imagination! What is out there is a mystery reading ancient text or hearing stories watching films amounts to a lot of intellectual masturbation or a lot of philosophical entertainment.

When the basic guiding stories about the beginnings of civilization are we, assume must of been primitive why do all of these advanced technological miss understandings confuse us?

The vast majority of people will always tend to rely on forming their opinions based upon what they read in the news papers and watched on there televisions no body especially your school teachers or politicians provoke speak intelligently about visitors from outer space.

Therefore simply I have formed a logical conclusion if you can give me sufficient money to manufacturer some spectacular movies regarding an alternative version of extra terrestrial civilization along with the creation of many life size models of space travel vehicles will make UFOs real.

Then people will believe in them just like they do visiting Walt Disney land! So by conditioning people to the existence of such ideas this will make them more acceptable more real so when the time come to seeing the real thing nobody will mind .....god bless me!

Will make UFOs real.

Accepting Reality

Most people are by nature very emotional beings and not unlike the pets they keep. Did you ever run into a cranky old farmer, etc… with a pitbull or aggressive, barking German Shepherd dog in the cab of his truck with him? They get along well together because they are emotionally alike.

Our prisons are overcrowded with very emotional people who acted on their emotions instead of using good common sense.

Our sex registries list millions of perverts who acted on their emotions and they can’t be rehabilitated because their emotions still control their thinking - like most people.

Our educational system seeks to employ very emotional teachers who can inspire our very emotional children to love to learn most anything. It doesn’t matter that the human brain has a finite capacity, forgets often, and actually uses very little of what is learned. The student can always become a teacher and continue the cycle! Progress??

Books, movies, sports tickets, advertisements, cars, clothes, make-up, etc….sell because they appeal to our emotions. Our landfills are half filled with junk that never needed to be purchased in the first place!

Babies are born to unmarried teenagers because their emotional thinking and actions were guided by hormones instead of good common sense.

You don’t have to emotionally love your neighbor in order to practice the Golden Rule. Treat others the same way you want to be treated. If you understand your own needs, you understand your neighbor’s needs!

The paramount value of any religion is to teach people to apply the Golden Rule. It is a fact, however, that many people cling to religious beliefs of a Heavenly home following their death because the thought of “dust to dust” is too scary! All of this thinking is guided by PURE EMOTION! The barking German Shepherd dog in the farmer’s truck cab doesn’t want to die either!

Over the next several millennium, acts of nature will kill millions of people by flood, by disease, by starvation, by volcanoes erupting, by earthquake, by meteorites, by other events totally beyond human control. In fact we will likely all perish if we don’t develop the technology to live in Space. Our survival depends on an unemotional, open minded, objective acceptance and analysis of everything we see in Nature, including thousands of UFO sightings. The human race will have no future at all if too many people think like the “very religious lady who taught Sunday school.”

Reality

I blog at a jounaling site and communicated with one very religious lady who taught Sunday school and when I mentioned my belief in UFO intelligence she commented that she doesn't believe in UFO's and then kind of stopped coming to my site and I think there are many Christians that will be very upset that their 'view ' of end times and Heaven etc. is wrong. It will hurt a lot of folks. Not the biblical scholars but just everyday folk that are looking forward to heaven.

ufo's a problem for the church

The book of isaiah chapter 28 suggests that the crop circles are his 'strange work' that he has to do.

yayog

You are your own God.

Tbilisi Georgian Christian orthodox Church has some UFO Icons on walls

I don't know how it reals about Georgian Christian Orthodox Church has UFO Icons on the wall in Mstkheta near Tbilisi is. so I would like send you photos but my mobile N70 nokia couldn't take clear photos sorry i don't have photocamera :( .Also I saw UFO in Tbilisi and Stavropol Region village Eristo in Russia but I don't know if Russian millitary has as UFO form and flying over . but I believe that Religion and X-planets alians maybe same peoples as we are humans.
I speak several languages and I am interested by UFO and Religion.

ETs and The Fallen Ones

UFO's have the ability to literally disappear. Therefore, the "aliens" do as well. Why do these ET's seem to know so much about us and how did they learn our language? Why do close encounters with these beings reveal so much about their feelings regarding religion and Jesus? These beings are most likely the fallen ones who were cast out of Heaven. Fallen angels known as demons. They know their time is short. As in the days of Noah (When the fallen ones came unto young women and took as they chose and had children by them - the Nephilim) so shall the coming of the Son of Man (JESUS) be.

Another Country Heard From

Hey all,

Let me add my two cents to this discussion.
When I was a young girl I played a trick on one of my four brothers. I put a carrot in his underwear drawer, assuming that he would find it at least within the week. The carrot lay in the drawer for months undiscovered and I soon forgot about the prank. Then one day my mother gathered all my brothers into their shared bedroom with the intention of cleaning the hovel up. I could hear the hustle and bustle of their activity from my own room. Suddenly, everything became ominously quiet. My curiosity was piqued and I went into their room to investigate the sudden silence. They were all huddled around something on the bed, with my mother asking over and over, "What is it?" and my brothers responding with grunts that sounded like, "I don't know." I pressed through the huddle to see what had them all so mystified. A drawer containing underwear had been pulled out onto the bed and there amidst the tidy whities lay something dark brown and mushy. One can well imagine what conclusions were being drawn in their minds.
They encountered an anomaly in the underwear drawer that did not compute unless one came to an extreme conclusion.
In this case, I was the only one who knew the truth, which they would never have guessed at. So when I told them what it was their fear and disgust were relieved. (And I was cracking up!)

Here is the parallel to the topic at hand:
UFO's are an anomaly that don't fit neatly into our scientific dimension. Whatever conclusions we come to about them are bound to be in error. Our most obvious assumption is that (once all natural explanations are ruled out) they are beings from another planet, solar system, etc. I have my opinion about them (I think they are from another dimension,that's why they fit nicely into all things paranormal), but I don't really know for sure, but I do know the One who does, and I am secure in that knowledge.

God BLess

If Jesus said....

Even Jesus said: "In my Father's house, there are many mansions."

John Alexander's comment at top of the site.

"What if, in the weeks that followed a face-to-face contact, we found out (as the UFO Community's leaders proclaim) these obviously technologically superior beings had no religion?"

I have yet to hear that we can speak their language or understand it! How could we get this comment from them?

You may need an editor.

Misspellings in your website: "phenomenon" when referring to the plural, should be "phenomena." "Click here . . . on this topics." Oh dear--"this" should be "these."

In a Christian World....

I would like to see some opinions and satements from leaders and thinkers of other religions.

ALIENS and UFOS

There is a story which has to be verified that towards the end of the World, minute creatures from "outer-world" (unknown), with huge heads will invade the earth. They will come and destroy whatever is on our planet including humans.

Now when I read these encounters with Aliens and Ufos (I can't differentiate between the two), I have started believing that, that long time ago story might be a true forecast of what might befall the human race.

What actually makes this story important is that I heard it from a well learned Islamic Sheikh (a Muslem Scholar) and over the years I have noted with appreciation that all the Koran forecasts have been approved by the modern science(personal observation, free to make yours). CAN MUSLIMS GIVE US THEIR VERSION OF THESE CREATURES WHOSE PRESENCE HAS STARTED TO MAKE US EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE?

A Simplistic View of Reality

UFO evidence suggests that ALL movement of ALL particle matter (to include EM waves, electrons, atoms, people, cars, planets, UFO craft,…etc.) is caused by the pull of long (many kilometers, but length varies), high speed (light years per second) ether particles traveling in straight lines and in ALL directions. These very fast, long, linear ether particles (LEP’s) occupy “empty” space, including the space within ALL particle matter. (per cent fill ??)
Also, ALL particle matter is itself composed of ether particles. However, these ether particles are not linear but are bundled, wrapped, (knotted) and held in a nonlinear shape. LEP’s attach to and pull at many points within and on ALL particle matter. These LEP’s have the same speed as the matter they are attached to. Clearly, LEP’s are composed of smaller particles which have an affinity for each other, are directional (polarized), and readily arrange themselves into long perfectly straight strings.

The constant speed of light is caused by the forward pull of LEP’s on the EM wave while forward movement is impeded by other LEP’s (those in front of and not traveling exactly parallel to the direction of the EM wave) as they move rapidly (light years per second) past and out of the way of the oncoming EM wave.

UFO craft are accelerated by literally cutting, ripping, and tearing away LEP’s behind the craft which are pulling in a direction opposite the desired direction of travel. Accelerating the craft to many times the speed of light is accomplished by cutting, ripping, and tearing away LEP’s which are ahead of the craft and perpendicular to the direction of travel.

The field between the plates of a capacitor consists of electrostatic lines which are “particle matter” just like EM waves and are pulled, extending them from the electrons in the negatively charged plate to the positively charged plate, by LEP’s. The field around a current carrying conductor consists of electrostatic lines which are pulled by LEP’s perpendicular to the direction of current travel and, of course, perpendicular to the conductor surface.

The knife particle (KP) that will cut, rip, and tear LEP’s away from ALL particle matter is a special twisted, rope-like, hardened, LINEAR particle created by tightly wrapping electrostatic lines together. Once created and free, the KP spins in the plane of its long axis and about the midpoint of its long axis as LEP’s pull and unwrap electrostatic lines. The KP, when located behind and spinning perpendicular to a craft’s desired direction of travel, will accelerate the craft away from the particle. Also, spinning this particle ahead of and in planes parallel to a crafts direction of travel will accelerate the craft forward, but just as important, it will accelerate all debris including air out of the space in front of the craft. This fact explains the lack of a sonic boom as UFO craft travel at thousands of miles an hour in earth’s atmosphere. And it also explains how UFO craft avoid striking space debris while traveling at light speed.

The radiation effects felt near UFO craft as they hover or accelerate away is caused by the very short wavelength EM waves created as KP’s unwrap. The electrostatic lines that make up the KP actually become very short wavelength EM waves. The downward pressure felt by people located beneath the craft is caused by KP’s as they spin - cutting, ripping, and tearing LEP’s away from atoms in the human body. If you spot a UFO craft near ground, be safe by staying at least 100 meters away. Also, some of the alien occupants are not very friendly, probably because hunters or military have fired weapons at them. Reports of aliens firing laser-like weapons at humans are probably accurate. When humans act like dumb animals they should expect to be treated like dumb animals.

LEP propulsion allows UFO craft to accelerate quickly to thousands of miles an hour, make fast sharp angled turns, and stop very quickly. LEP’s are a source of immense energy. And, of course, LEP’s are much faster than EM waves for communications. Nanometer sized molecular motors can be used to create KP’s.

Is God behind the UfO phenomenon?

If we look at Isaiah 28 in the christian bible, we see talk about God 'doing his strange work' --what could be starnager then UFO work? it also talks about an 'overflowing scourge' -- could UFO's be the overflowing scourge that is challenging our 'covenant with death and agreement with hell' reality? In other words, God says were asleep -- 'gross darkness covers the people' Isaiah 60 -- and the UFO scourge is an attempt to 'wake us up!'?

naisioxerloro

Hi.
Good design, who make it?

organized religion makes no sence

sad, yes but true the church is the biggest tax free biz on the globe.
and the oldest cult(the RC)has spent hundreds of years brainwashing
generations of humans for that 1 billion faithful....but watch how fast even
the most stubborn holy roller puts their bible on a shelf...when it finally
is seen by all...before jesus sets in the western sky we all will know -wuts up with that...

Ancient UFO's

Fatima may be an E. T. event. Ancient UFO reports are plausible, just like current UFO reports. Since the nearest planets that might possibly support advanced life forms are many light years away, E. T.'s, even traveling near the speed of light at 186,000 miles per second, would necessarily need to be equipped to live in Space continuously. Their arrival here several thousand years ago may have been chronicled during Biblical times.

However, some ancient UFO reports, just like some current UFO reports, may still only be misunderstood natural phenomenon.

what about?

What the ideal that E.T. could be the ones which are said to have came out of the sky in Biblical times?

Are you Alice? Yes. I am a Carpenter.

this is retarted

Thank You, A Webster!

WOW! If you were a carpenter, you hit the nail on the head!

I am a Christian and, yes, I do believe in many things. I believe in Jesus Christ. I believe in the Bible. I believe in Salvation. None of my beliefs are science or provable. I've always said that I believe in what makes me happy. I think my beliefs are also, like you write, a "feel good mental exercise." Aliens probably have entirely different "feel good" beliefs.

The earth is covered with warring nations trying to convert each other or kill each other. I hope aliens have matured beyond this Human insanity!!

God and Jesus are Extraterrestrials? Really?

"Unless you are one of those who pick and choose what part of the Bible you want to believe in you must believe that God and his Son Jesus are of extraterrestrial origin."

You "pick and choose" these versus to support your beliefs---
Exodus 20:1-4
John 8:23
John 18:36

Why can't everyone "pick and choose" their own beliefs? Everyone can "pick and choose" their own verses from the Bible or from any other religious text, or they can choose to not "pick and choose" any! Instead, they can be like scientist and skeptically accept the science we think we know and continue to research the unknown.

There is no proven scientific truth in any belief. (Look up the definition of belief) Believing is just a "feel good" mental exercise!

God Is an ET

Excerpt from my next book "ALTERNATIVE EVIDENCE"
In the book of Genesis chapter one, we find a major piece of evidence to support the existence of extraterrestrial life. I consider the statement, in the beginning there was only God and that He created the Earth and the Heavens above it, to be our first piece of evidence from the Bible. This statement, if taken as fact, makes it impossible for God to have been born here on Earth. Do you follow me people? God created the Earth after He was born somewhere else, born and raised on someplace other then the Earth He created; He didn’t just pop in out of nowhere, from nothing. This fact alone tells me our God is an alien, an extraterrestrial being. Later in this chapter I will show you how, through Biblical extrapolation, to determine what star system God came from. We find our next piece of evidence in the book of Exodus chapter twenty verses 1 through 4. God's first commandment, "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me". Contrary to common belief, this commandment is not in reference to carved idols or any other such graven images. Idols and graven images are covered by the second commandment, "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image or idol". In the first commandment “Thou shalt have no other Gods before me,” God is speaking in reference to other living extraterrestrials like Himself. These two statements tell me there are others like God and that He feels they may one day come to us as he did and proclaim to be God as well. We find our next piece of evidence in the book of John as Jesus admits to others that He and his father, God, are from another world, a world above ours. John: 8:23 and he said unto them, ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. John: 18:36 Jesus answered, my kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. Unless you are one of those who pick and choose what part of the Bible you want to believe in you must believe that God and his Son Jesus are of extraterrestrial origin.

ufos R

ufos are probly the religion silly. what do you think angels,devils,and demons (spirit creatures) look like?

Just want scientific facts please!

MEL -- Your UFO information is staged TRASH!
Poor quality video
Poor quality audio
Spooky music
Could be part of a Halloween celebration
Very unscientific!

SCIENCE AND RELIGION DON'T MIX

When scientists "logically follow" (scientific) evidence and (scientific) "truth where it leads",the results are not skewed by emotional religious interpretation. Scientists examine all mysteries in all areas without preference, always. (This, a characteristic of their open-mindedness)

Religious folk fuss and fear that their religious brethren might interpret their uncertainty and questioning as a "lack of faith." Scientists examine and question ALL unknown without fear!

Scientists aren't looking for evidence for GOD in their experiments. Emotional religious folk are always looking for evidence of miracles to support their belief in GOD.

The interpretation of UFO evidence is scientific work!
Emotional religious folk ought to stand aside, quiet down, and let the work proceed!

As we logically follow evidence and truth where it leads, as Christians we should not be afraid to examine mysteries in non-traditional areas. This fear of examining the unknown is in itself a lack of faith. Look, learn, think with an open mind - God may be revealed in a different way - but He will still be God, and Jesus will still be Christ.

This is what I believe.

I am a Christian, and I believe in Jesus Christ, the forgiveness of sins, and Salvation. Questioning the Bible or its' inerrancy does not affect my faith. Also, finding ET's and UFO's in the Bible does not affect my faith. I don't believe the "physical" Bible which is "inspired by God", but written by man is inerrant. It is sorta crazy to think that men do not make mistakes!! ( Sounds sexist, doesn't it?) My Faith is to simply believe what is necessary to bring me happiness!

Question everything, everyone, every book???????????????????????????

I always question every book---Torah, Bible, Koran

The Bible has been rewritten 1000's of times in hundreds of languages by HUMANS!

I don't know any perfect HUMANS!!!!!!!

Biblical relevance

Please include research by Missler in your "Religion and UFOs" section. Rather than making one question the Bible, there is strong research to indicate a plan of deception that is not "new". Great site otherwise.

BOYAMIBRIGHT

God is an ET, therefore the "son of God", Jesus Christ, is a half-breed ET. Does anyone doubt that Mary is the human mother of Jesus?
Since all ET's travel in UFO's, if Jesus Christ comes again, it will probably be in a UFO.
Since hundreds of UFO's sightings are reported each year, surely one of these has an occupant named (YOU GUESSED IT!!) JESUS CHRIST!!!!
Such deductive reasoning should qualify me for MENSA!!!

UFO's & ET's (Not a problem for the church)

I will keep this brief. Wouldn't it stand to reason that looking further into this mystery would only unveil the fact that what humanity has referred to as GOD, would probably end up being an advanced race of ET's? Ancient man had nothing to compare what he saw in his world other than the actual day to day objects "of his world" So God would come down in his "CHARIOT OF FIRE". Really folks wake up, didn't not Jesus say, "My Father's Kingdom is not of this world". During the Middle Ages, all the statues found in chuches of that time, where only made to help the uneducated farmer, serf or slave have something tangible they could look at and direct their parayers to. In my mind this poses a quandry, as the Ten Commandments actually say that God specifically said, that we would have no other God before him, Nor worship any images. Are we not doing this everytime someone lights a candle in front of St, Peter, Paul or Mary?

Oh How GREAT THE CON OF MAN!!! We no longer run into caves at the rumbling of Thunder, nor do we thing the end of the world is coming whenever we have an eclipse. (JUST SOMETHING TO PONDER)
If and when Jesus comes it will robably be in a UFO!!! Read Ezekial close encounter of the 3rd kind

in quran the moslims book

ufo in quran sooret elshora aya- letarkabann tabakaa an tabaak

People with little Faith always Fuss!

Religious folk through faith accept the existence of a Supreme Being. (Evidence is not needed.)

Proving that UFO's are real and proving the existence of intelligent aliens are scientific endeavors.

Science and religion don't mix!

What's all the fuss?

If ufo's are real, ailen intellegence, It does not affect the idea of a Supreme Being, it just moves the question out a bit.

UFO in Vedas

I just went threw articles about religion and UFOs, but didn't find a bit about UFO mentioned in Vedas... Do you really don't know that??
If you don't then let me enlighten you.
Age of Vedas are decades of centuries before Christ, and yet there are mentioned UFO. They call them vymans and they fly due to spiritual energy etc.
I really suggest you to look it up. Though I don't quite remember exactly where and which kind of Vedas of may be Upanishads was it, but it is DEFINITELY there.
And Aliens (other beings) are well describes.
I was listening to lecture in Russian (credible)

There is not much that I can say, but I will answer to questions if someone asks (though I recommend in finding on your own ;)

UFO in Vedas

I just went threw articles about religion and UFOs, but didn't find a bit about UFO mentioned in Vedas... Do you really don't know that??
If you don't then let me enlighten you.
Age of Vedas are decades of centuries before Christ, and yet there are mentioned UFO. They call them vymans and they fly due to spiritual energy etc.
I really suggest you to look it up. Though I don't quite remember exactly where and which kind of Vedas of may be Upanishads was it, but it is DEFINITELY there.
And Aliens (other beings) are well describes.
I was listening to lecture in Russian (credible)

There is not much that I can say, but I will answer to questions if someone asks (though I recommend in finding on your own ;)

ET

all we see are just pictures of "evidence".. we havent encounterd any other life beyond space that says "hey all of us are real!" so its too difficult to live and agree with somthing that we havent even seen...

ET

all we see are just pictures of "evidence".. we havent encounterd any other life beyond space that says "hey all of us are real!" so its too difficult to live and agree with somthing that we havent even seen...

Bible UFO's

Ezekiel's description of the landing of a Wheel within a Wheel was probably a UFO sighting. UFO's guided Moses through the desert. Alexander the Great had a UFO sighting. Columbus had a UFO sighting. Many Bible prophets who were taken up to heaven, and returned to earth were probably escorted by UFO's.

cults

There will always be people who seek leadership of a cult, like Marshall Applewhite of Heaven's Gate, Jim Jones of Peoples Temple, and David Koresh of Branch Davidian. They are manipulative, abhor criticism, and increasingly want themselves to become the focus of worship. They begin by pretending to be simple men doing God's will and end up megalomaniacs thinking they have divine knowledge and omnipotence. Some may even refer to themselves as a "Messiah". Even though these cult beliefs may include sightings(Fatima), spacecraft, and aliens, I find current UFO reports much more credible and interesting. This site has been improved a lot. Thanks

Get a Moderator, eliminate tjhe silly trash on this serious website!

I am amazed that such a worth-while and serious website such as this would allow such whacko postings as I have seen here.

Yes, religion as we all know it is in trouble not IF, but WHEN the UFO question is finally brought to the general publics attention. Of course, die-hard Christians will attempt to skirt the issue with all possible diversions, but the real truth is that the religion that we know today will need serious revision to say the very least. It is quite plain that the Old Testament is filled with UFO activity, and not only myself, but numerous others see this as the 'God' and his influence on one group of individuals, the Israelites. Christianity would not have survived except for the fact that it was made the state religion, and has persisted to this day as a control mechanism. The sad truth is that most people, and particularly Christians and also other religious types, and indeed the scientific community at large, will NOT admit the fact of other intelligent beings in the universe. In time, the issue will be resolved. Hopefully!

Get a Moderator

I am amazed that such a worth-while and serious website such as this will allow such silly postings such as I have seen hee.
Yes, religion as we know it will be in serious trouble, and many will not be able to take the truth. The Old Testament is literally filled with UFO activity, and few will admit the fact.

Clean up the site!

Gran Piramide

I am Nwobniwla, Alwin Bown, the Messiah of the Great Pyramid, the Envoy of the Constructor of Giza Plateau, the Carrier of the Divine Knowledge of Pharaoh for the surviving of this Civilization, the Last Messenger in his first born, a simple man, a Carpenter.
First. Not matter who hear and see what I reveal, nobody believe me because mankind has been deceived for false dogmas of faith that preach false Messiahs.
The belief of faith of a second coming of a Jesus Christ will be the perdition of this Civilization, since, the Jesus Christ is a literary fiction that was created to take revenge against the Judaism. The revenge was dit with the aim to destroy the Judaism, but they never got it until today.
Second. At the same time the Judaism is a false belief of faith that preach us the coming of a Messiah of Jews, but they never has mentioned for what and in name of who this man will make act of presence on Earth. The Judaism manifest this man is not from divine origin. This is a great thruth.
Third. The mankind live a religious fiction from the Bible, the Old and New Testament. When the day anounced for me arrive, the entire mankind will wail that their religious representatives has deceived to them.
When this day arrive, the Vatican will be destroyed for their own followers and the entire mankind will wail their Scientists of Great Pyramid never answered my final warning.
Yes. I am the Messenger of the Great Pyramid and I have long years writing to them with the aim they take care of my Revelations.
Now. Nobody believe me and only when will be too late to wail that Scientists of Earth will want to hear and see again what I am revealing of the Great Pyramid about.
The mob ignore what I am talking about and with the purpose they understand what I am warning about I will give notice who is the true God of mankind.
The first step will be you draw a new axis just center at the King's Chamber where you have the Coffer, the Altar of God.
The followin step will be you enounce the Law of Retaliation, that of eye for eye, tooth for tooth, the Break or Crack for Crack or Break mentioned for Moses, the Right Cheek for Left Cheek of Jesus Christ.
You must understand the eye is the Queen's Chamber, the tooth is the deep hole at the ground of Subterranean Chamber and the Right Cheek or Crack or Break is the so mentioned WELL SHAFT.
Then. In knowing where you will enounce the Law of Retaliation you will duplicate the geometry of the Great Pyramid to the Left Side from that one you have at the right side in using of the new axis.
What do you see into the Great Pyramid?
You will see the Countenance of God, the Face of the LION of JUDAH, the God of Jews in Egypt.
The duplication of the Great Corridor will show you the MANE of the LION, the Biblical SAMSON. If you cut the MANE to Samson, the Strenght or FORCE of Samson will abandon him. In other words if you take out the Great Corridors from the Duplication, the King's Chamber will stop to be generating the Power of the SWORD that you have in the mouth of God, the Sword of TWO EDGES that across the ROCK to penetrate in the Subterranean Chamber.
Do you see the ROCK where the Great Pyramid was raised?
This ROCK is the biblical VEIL of Moses that occult the Divine Knowledge from the NOSE of the Lion of Judah, the SECRET CHAMBER of the PHARAOH of Egypt.
Into this Secret Chamber you will find the Divine Plans of the Ark of Noah for the surviving of a few humans being by the day anounced for me.
But. No Scientists will reach the Secret Chamber of the Great Pyramid without my help us Messiah of Jews.
Why?
Because the Divine Plans of Ark of Noah is for the benefit of the entire mankind and not for the benefit of a Nation, or Religious Entity, or a Scientific Corporation. This is the reason of intelligence why I give the position of the Secret Chamber but not how Scientists could reach it.
I f they try to go into this Chamber without my help, the complete Great Pyramid will collapse for the interior to the abysm.
Do you hear the roaring of the Biblical God into the Great Pyramid?
No!
Then I am sure you will hear the roaring when be too late to wail for the entire mankind. When this day arrive, the entire mankind will ask to their religious representatives for the Messiah they preach. This day the Nation of Israel and the Vatican will be destroy for the mankind and for the reason they has been deceiving to men of the Messiah about.
The Vatican manifest you that on the head of Pope you have representated the Divinity of the Biblical God.
Now you now who is the God that the Pope and his Cardinals believe.
The Duplication of the Great Pyramid, the TWO PEAKS of the COFIA PAPAL.
The hat of TWO PEAK on the head of Pope and Cardinals, the Countenance of the Lion of Judah, the Face of Samson's Lion.
Now you know of why the Bible smell to a lot of Lions.
The mankind must wail don't exist Sumo Priests of the Great Pyramid today.
We adviced to the Vatican of the epoch (Fatima, Portugal, 1917) that the Messiah of the Constructor (Elohin) of Pharaoh of Egypt was to born soon and it was just time to give know to the entire mankind the TRUTH of the fiction they were preached to the mankind in my name as Messenger of the Great Pyramid.
By the year 2028 will be too late for the entire mankind to go back today.
After year 2028 the entire mankind will observe at the Superiors Stratus of Atmosphere Greatest Chemicals Storms never observed before. The mankind will die for suffocation, not for the waters from the one you have from the Bible, or else for the waters you have UP, those of the Chemicals Symbols from the waters you have DOWN.
Nobody believe me?
Lamentably don'ts exist Sumo Priests of the Great Pyramid today. They were the unique that coul prove to you that I am the true Messiah of Jews in Egypt how I am manifesting it from long time ago, but the Scientists of Earth don't believe me.
NWOBNIWLA, ALWIN BOWN.

ufo's and the bible.

With all of the descriptions of angel sightings in the bible it would seem as if God came in a spaceship. I am a die-hard christian and a firm believer in our Lord Jesus Christ, and I have no problem reconciling that the Lord did in fact arrive here in a spaceship. The belief in ufo's does not go against biblical teachings. The ancient Israelis were led by a 'pillar of cloud' by day and a 'pillar of fire' by night. One has to ask one's self how else would the ancients describe what they were seeing? Lacking 'techicnical language' they would naturally describe these appearances in a more simplified way. The descending of the cloud onto the mountain, the burning bush which was not consumed, Jesus' ascention into the cloud, Ezekiels sighting of the wheel within a wheel, Elijah's being taken by the fiery chariot all could be explianed by ships coming out of the air. Logic dictates that if these occurences did happen then something real was there. Take the example of the Magi following the star until they came upon the sight of our Lords birth here on earth, science will tell you that an object outside of our atmosphere cannot be followed until you can walk directly beneath it. As one walked the object would simply stay in the same relatively fixed position in the sky to the observer. This 'star' had to be within the earths atmosphere. Religion or the belief in God does not go against the reality of other life currently unknown to us existing elsewhere. On the contrary,christianity dictates that we do believe in life on other worlds. Afterall Jesus did say that we shall find a new heaven and a new earth elsewhere. This would mean travelling to another planet capable of harboring our form of life. I would gladly welcome comments to the contrary.

church secrets

i think the church knows a lot about ufos,the church knew the world was not flat 200 hundred years a go !
who are they to say when the world is ready for the truth !!!

UFO and world religion

In my comment if we are not in alone in the universe we have to meet other E.T. inhabitants in very near future. Sometime they will teach us new theory of begining of universe or otherwise they will be learned more knowledge from us. But God sake, I am sure they will learned something very interest from us because we are only human in this universe upto now.

a problem for all religions

god as we know is not what we thought,aliens are the gods for all mankind.egyptians worishipped them and helped build the pyramids and the technology that we have and thats nothing to what we already have,we have to bring the technology out bit at a timei just think its about time the power houses woke up told the truth and let us public come to terms with the fact we arent the only ones in the entire universe,and yes,religion for all e.g.catholics,muslims,buddhism would have to be addressed and also that would put a stop to terrorrism around the world at same time or wait for armeggedon and nothing be solved.its are planet but its up to us if we want to live in a false corrupted murdering world...wake up all goverments and stop trying to play god and your secrect counterparts who are higher than yourselfs and do something right for once. hows about saving planet from warming up and save yourselfs besides us as well.the world today is a mess and thats are fault.....

a problem for all religions

god as we know is not what we thought,aliens are the gods for all mankind.egyptians worishipped them and helped build the pyramids and the technology that we have and thats nothing to what we already have,we have to bring the technology out bit at a timei just think its about time the power houses woke up told the truth and let us public come to terms with the fact we arent the only ones in the entire universe,and yes,religion for all e.g.catholics,muslims,buddhism would have to be addressed and also that would put a stop to terrorrism around the world at same time or wait for armeggedon and nothing be solved.its are planet but its up to us if we want to live in a false corrupted murdering world...wake up all goverments and stop trying to play god and your secrect counterparts who are higher than yourselfs and do something right for once. hows about saving planet from warming up and save yourselfs besides us as well.the world today is a mess and thats are fault.....

a problem for all religions

god as we know is not what we thought,aliens are the gods for all mankind.egyptians worishipped them and helped build the pyramids and the technology that we have and thats nothing to what we already have,we have to bring the technology out bit at a timei just think its about time the power houses woke up told the truth and let us public come to terms with the fact we arent the only ones in the entire universe,and yes,religion for all e.g.catholics,muslims,buddhism would have to be addressed and also that would put a stop to terrorrism around the world at same time or wait for armeggedon and nothing be solved.its are planet but its up to us if we want to live in a false corrupted murdering world...wake up all goverments and stop trying to play god and your secrect counterparts who are higher than yourselfs and do something right for once. hows about saving planet from warming up and save yourselfs besides us as well.the world today is a mess and thats are fault.....

a problem for all religions

god as we know is not what we thought,aliens are the gods for all mankind.egyptians worishipped them and helped build the pyramids and the technology that we have and thats nothing to what we already have,we have to bring the technology out bit at a timei just think its about time the power houses woke up told the truth and let us public come to terms with the fact we arent the only ones in the entire universe,and yes,religion for all e.g.catholics,muslims,buddhism would have to be addressed and also that would put a stop to terrorrism around the world at same time or wait for armeggedon and nothing be solved.its are planet but its up to us if we want to live in a false corrupted murdering world...wake up all goverments and stop trying to play god and your secrect counterparts who are higher than yourselfs and do something right for once. hows about saving planet from warming up and save yourselfs besides us as well.the world today is a mess and thats are fault.....

Since a little girl I interpreted my religion'classes very different from the teachers in my catholic School. They told me that I'm suppose to confess my sins (my ideas) to a priest. when they told us about fire carrusels from heaven came to take people I always related with the ufos. I never was told about ufos but I was sure that it was my religion. I'm very catholic in my way.

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Fatima

Fatima is just another credible UFO incident. No alien exited the craft; no alien introduced themselves; and no alien explained why they came. There is no hard physical evidence. There are many credible UFO incidents just like Fatima.

If the Pope were to change his interpretation of Fatima, only 1 billion people would learn about it. Of the approximately 7 billion people on Earth only 1 billion are Christian Catholic. Another 1 billion are Christian non-catholic. (I'm in this group.) Therefore, approximately 6 billion people, including myself, don't follow Vatican proclamations and don't care what the Pope thinks or says. Having the Pope proclaim something doesn't seem like a very effective way to get a message to all people on Earth.

CY. GIVE ME THE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!

CY.
What you know about Fatima?
Nothing!
October 13, year 1917.
An enormous object in the sky was gyrating for about 15 minutes under the clouds. This object was going and coming with enormous speed and suddenly stopped in front of sixty thousand atonish eyewitness.
After one minute to be in that position, suddenly the object rush impetuously against the people join together. The panic was indescribable.
This enormous bright metal Disc suddenly stopped to a few feet over the multitude on purpose. After seconds to be in that position the object went back to the sky to an inmense speed to disappears suddenly to the eyes of the multitude.
The Miracle of the Dance of Sun!
No.
This object in the sky was a Scientific Prodigy and the only purpose of this prodigy was to give notice to the Vatican of the epoch that the extraterrestrial entity behind the supposed Virgin was the Constructors of the Great Pyramid, the Elohins. An extraterrestrial entity that take care of humans beings forever until this Civilization has the wisdom to understand men are not alone in the Universe.
What was the purpose of the Prodigy in the sky over Fatima?
To warn Vatican that the Constructor of the Great Pyramid was worry what the Vatican preach in name of the Messiah of Jews, the Envoy of the Great Pyramid.
Men must know that in Fatima never was given three Apocaliptic messages.
It was given only one message to the Vatican of the epoch. "The Vatican must reveal the truth of the Messiah of Jews to the mankind and before to be so late to wail for mankind.
Why this extraterrestrial entity gave this Message to the Vatican in using of a Virgin?
Because they promised our ancestors to never intervene directly in the destiny of mankind, the reason why they used of a belief of faith to give the last warning to the Vatican and in knowing the Popes don't believe in Virgins.
The Pope of the epoch cast aside the warning and like how the following Popes did it. This Pope today, Benedicto, he know the truth of my words, but they will never reveal the truth of Fatima because they know the revelation will be the perdition of Vatican.
What was the real message given to the Vatican in Fatima?
The Messiah of Jews (Envoy or Messenger of the Great Pyramid) will born on Earth soon and it will be necessary the Vatican reveal the truth of this Messiah of the Great Pyramid to the men before he make act of presence in front of mankind.
Science and UFOS?
Science and Religion!
Religion and UFOS!
FATIMA, GIVE ME THE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH VATICAN UNTIL TO BE SO LATE FOR THE ENTIRE MANKIND.

NWOBNIWLA.

Nwobniwla's response to Alice

I'm quoting a previous anonymous post.

"Religions are believed. Believing is a human emotional thought process culminating in faith (a belief which is not based on scientific proof). The key to accepting any religious belief is engaging in an emotional thought process."

"On the other hand, accepting and acknowledging scientific evidence as truth is a pragmatic, unemotional (objective) thought process."

"Religious beliefs need human emotion for their existence. Science needs the absence of human emotional thought for its' existence."

"Mixing scientific and religious thought always pollutes science" and creates a "cesspool of unscientific nonsense."

Nwobniwla, if your knowledge of the Pyramids and the Giza Plateau in Egypt is in fact science, then as a scientist your response should be factual, logical and provable. If any part of your thinking can't be substantiated with clear, logical, provable scientific evidence then that part is a belief and your emotional (unscientific) response to Alice becomes very understandable. Scientists never use science to disprove someone's religious beliefs, and believers don't need scientific evidence to support their own religious beliefs.

GIVE ME THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!

Let's be HAPPY!!!!

Nwobniwla, I confess I'm ignorant, but my beliefs make me happy! Hope your beliefs are making you happy too!

I will answer the question to Alice: Another Religion?

Dear Alice.
Yes. My name is Alwin Bown and I was using a nickname: Nwobniwla.
You attacked me without to investigate what I reveal throught my comments. I am very sure you never got the geometry graphic of the interior of the Great Pyramid to enounce the Law of Retalliaton like how I explained you.
Why you attack me before to proof my words?
You words against me are proofs that the humans being are blind and deaf, and they don't want to see and hear and not before to be so late to wail. When this day arrive over Earth, that day you will cry and you will curse what you wrote against me. When this day arrive you will curse the Vatican.
You believe in a fiction, the one that manifest Jesus Christ will come for a second time. Let me tell you something. Your ignorance is great. You stupidity manifest how is possible the Messiah use of the Internet...!
If you have culture you would know that the Judaism manifest to you the Messiah will born on Earth from Terrestrial Father and Mother.
Do you think this man will be different from the rest of mankind?
No. He will go to the School like you and he will work like you and he will used of the Internet like you.
Do you know why you are wrong?
You are wrong because how I manifest before you believe in a fiction and you were engaged with a false Messiah of Jews, the Jesus Christ.
Do you know why?
It is very simple. The Great Pyramid was built by your ancestors with the purpose you would have a board of salvation today The surviving of your descendents on Earth. It is not for the salvation of the souls how the Vatican preach you.
Nobody will be accumulating millions and millions of stones for nothing and with the purpose you manifest incredulity what I manifest of the Great Pyramid about.
I am very sure you are complete ignorant of the Giza Plateau and at the same time you did never read the complete Bible. You belief of Faith was imputed falsely when you were a baby. Then, if you are ignorant of the Great Pyramid and what the Bible manifest about it, you cannot doubt about me and not before you investigate what I am manifesting throught the geometry of the Great Pyramid.

LONELY BRAIN CELLS

Rastrapovichus (sounds like a retro-virus) you certainly are a cool guy with cool links. Now I want to tell you about the non-existant links that connect your brain cells together!!
(If Christ had not died on the cross for my sins, I couldn't make posts like this!)

ANOTHER RELIGION

Did you read Nwobniwla's crazy post?
Nwobniwla, Alwin Bown,(same letters) actually thinks he is a Messiah coming in the name of the constructor of the Great Pyramids. Imagine that, a Messiah, a saviour of mankind is actually posting on this web site. My Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, died on the cross for my sins and rose again. Nwobniwla, are you planning on dying, maybe soon, to save mankind? Will your multitudes of followers post your obituary here so we can all celebrate the birth of another ridiculous religion!!!

I created Elohins too!

My Son, JESUS CHRIST, will have a second coming. I insist on it!! Only stupid, psychotic Railians disagree. Only fools argue with GOD!!!

Ufos and Vatican

Men are stupid. They believe in Miracles.
By the year 1917 in Fatima an extraterrestrial spacecraft make act of presence in the sky the thirtieth day of October in front of sixty thousand people.
The UFO was gyrating in the sky for around ten minutes. The speed of the UFO was a real whirlwind under the clouds. Unexpectedly the UFO stopped and it descended at great speed toward the multitude. The UFO stopped a few meters from the people. Who know? May be two hundred meters (600 feet) and like how come it go back to the sky to disappear throught the clouds.
The Vatican manifested the UFO was the Sun!
From that day the mankind believe in the Miracle of the Dance of the Sun.
This is the reason of why I manifest men are stupid and they believe in Miracles.
At the same time men are ignorant since they cannot discern that is imposible the Sun can make act of presence throught the clouds over Earth.
Or I am wrong and they are no ignorants. It is possible they are afraid of the Vatican.
I am going to reveal the truth of the Miracle of Fatima to men.
The Virgin was the means by which an unknown Extraterrestrial Entity wanted give a last Warning to the Vatican of the epoch.
What was the warning about? The true Messiah of Jews would be born on Earth soon and the Pope must prepare men for this event in the future and before to be so late to wail for the own Vatican.
Who is this Extraterrestrial Entity behind the Scientific Prodigy in the ski?
They are a Civilization of human beings that our ancestors knew as the Elohins. They were the Constructors of the Giza Plateau in Egypt and they promised ours ancestors to send a Messiah or Envoy of the Constructor of the Great Pyramid and by the time their descendents (today) need of the Scientific Knowledge of the Pharaoh of Egypt.
How old is the Great Pyramid or Pharaoh of Egypt?
Twelve thousand and five hundred years old. The name of Pharaoh that the Elohins gave to the Great Pyramid is a word whose real meaning is the Great Building or the Great House.
The Kings of Egypt took this name of Pharaoh in honor of the Great Pyramid, the reason why Moses never mentioned the name of the Biblical Pharaoh.
He never mentioned the name of the Biblical Pharaoh since he wanted the readers discerned that the Masonic Sect of Jews were slaves in conscience of the Great Pyramid and they really wanted to escape from this Great Pyramid.
Men must know the Great Pyramid was built by the time no civilization existed in Egypt and just by the time the axis of the Great Pyramid was in the vertical of the Stars of Pleiades.
The Sphinx and the three Great Pyramids correspond to one plan of architecture only. They are no tombs.
Inside the Great Pyramid exist a Secret Chamber where are the Divine Plan of the Ark of Noah. This Ark of Noah is for the surviving of this civilization.
Who I am?
I am a man like you and I use a nickname, Nwobniwla. Mankind must know nobody believe me what I am warning about the Great Pyramid. Why nobody believe me?
Nobody believe me because men are waiting for Jesus Christ in a second coming without discern they were engaged for their own religious representatives, the Judaism and the Christianity. Mankind is waiting for a false Messiah of Jews and without never discern that the Great Pyramid was not built with the aim men manifest today how stupid were our ancestors to be accumulatind millions and millions stones for nothing.

It is just time the mankind know what they have inside the Great Pyramid.
I will reveal it just know and each one of you must take out the enigma of my words for yourself.
Take paper and pencil. Get the Geometry Graphic of the interior of Great Pyramid. Get a Bible, the Vulgate Latin, no other since at all others Bible are apocriphal books.
Do you have the Graphic of the Great Pyramid?
Draw a new axis at the center of the Coffer by the King's Chamber.
Now you will go to the Bible and you figure out the Law of Retalliation. Yes. the first one from Moses and the second one from Jesus Christ. The first one manifest that of the crack by crack, eye by eye, tooth by tooth....
The second one manifest that of eye by eye and tooth by tooth. But Jesus change the Crack mentioned for Moses to manifest that of the right sheek.
This means the Crack and the Right Sheek correspond to one thing only.
The Crack of the Law of Retalliation correspond to the Well Shaft into the Great Pyramid, the Tunnel of Escape from the Pit of the Mine or Subterranean Chamber. The eye correspond to the Queen's Chamber and the tooth correspond to the hole that you have at the ground of the Subterranean Chamber.
The following step will be you duplicate at the left side of the new axis at the center of the King's Chamber what you have at the right side.
What you see now?
You see the Face of the God of Jews in Egypt. The Face of a LION, the so famous biblical God, the Lion of Judah. Now you know why the Bible smell to Lions.
Do you see the Rock were the Great Pyramid was built or raised?
This Rock is the VEIL that cover the NOSE of the Lion of Judah and this Veil of Moses covert the Divine Knowledge where the Divine Plan of the Ark of Noah be occult to the vision of men, under the Rock.
But. No men, no Scientists of Earth can reach the entrance of this Secret Chamber and without my help. When men reach the Ark of Noah, then this mankind will have the opportunity to give one step in the stepladder to contact other intelligences in the Universe, the Constructors of Pyramids.
Not matter was built a Pyramid in the Universe, you must be sure in that place exist a civilization of intelligents beings and like how exist today on Earth.
Now. I will reveal an enigma and then the men will understand why I manifest the Vatican engaged the complete mankind.
Do you see how many Peaks you have after duplicate the Graphic of the Great Pyramid throught the Law of Retalliation?
You have two Pyramid Peaks, the Double Peak of the Ararat Mountain where the Ark of Noah stopped after the Big Flood, the Double Peak of the Great Pyramid.
Now everybody can know why the Vatican manifest that over the head of Pope be represented the Divinity of God...! The Double Peak of the Hat or Mitre that the Pope and Cardinals used in their religious ceremonies.
In other words the Vatican manifest that over the head of Pope is the Duplication of the Double Peak of the Great Pyramid throught the meaning of the Law of Retalliation.
I hope men excuse my English, but this language is not my mother language.
Men must know it is not too late for this civilization provided the Pope reveal the truth of Fatima to the mankind and figure out who I am.
Men must know don't exist a second coming. It is the first coming and I am coming in name of the Constructor of the Great Pyramid, not in name of Vatican or Judaism, since the men must know that not exist today Sumo Priests of the Great Pyramid where I can go to give proofs who I am.
Nwobniwla.

open mindedness

Secular indoctrination is an emotional education in worldly values which are essentially hedonic, selfish, and lacking empathy. Religious indoctrination is an emotional education in a specific religion's doctrine, social values, ideals,...etc. Neither leads to open mindedness. The education of the scientist in math, physics, chemistry,...etc. is not an indoctrination, not an emotional education, and for that reason I think the scientist exemplifies open mindedness.

Evidence for GOD?

True believers, those who have received adequate religious indoctrination, will believe in GOD's existence and will not be looking for statistical evidence that GOD exists.

No Problem

I would be surprised if God had not seeded the Universe with life although someone has to be first and that could be us. If we do start meeting other cultures then if these encounters are more frequent than statistics would suggest, then that will be evidence for the existance of God.

ps Everyone who escapes from secular indoctrination is an open minded believer.

OXYMORON!!

Open-minded Christian is an oxymoron. Scientists are open-minded, Christians are not! Your only deceiving yourself. As gullible and easily led as the general populace is you'll probably even sell a few books. Isn't Capitalism wonderful!!

Unknown Elements of God's Creation: Not A Threat To Our Faith

Should any form of life outside what we know to exist reveal itself to mankind, we who have living faith in God have nothing to fear. We should remember, if we are true believers, our faith is unshakable. We are sealed until the day of Christ Jesus. We also ought to realize that just because it's not mentioned in our modern bibles, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. I have a theological system that I'm writing a book on currently. It goes something like this: God is Eternal. God is the Creator of All. God does not change. If these three statements are true, we can deduct that God, who has been in existence for all eternity, has been creating for all eternity. For God is a creator by nature and He does not change. An artist doesn't paint a few pictures and then put down his brush and pallet, never to paint again. If he is a good painter and he loves what he does, he keeps painting for the rest of his life- for it is his hobby. Therefor, we Christians ought not doubt the possibility that God has in his vast creation, other creations unknown to most. Christ's blood would be applied to any other fallen creature the very same way. Other creations, however, may not have an "Adam" who sinned against God and thus have no "original sin". There are many factors to consider, but remember to keep an open mind- as long as you give God the glory and keep Christ as the center of your faith.


A rare open-minded Christian

(Christian Defense of Extraterrestrials)

COMMON SENSE???

How can anyone be certain that UFO's are science fiction?? With all the evidence on this web site and on others. it looks more and more like science fact. It seems that simply believing anything will make it true for the believer, where as, known verifiable science is usually required to establish new science.
I think that it is a scientific fact that HEAVEN is fiction, since there is no physical evidence at all for it's existence.
I guess the moral of the story is, if you go to church, don't expect to be overwhelmed with common sense!!

Pray for the gift of Understanding

For the benefit of all true believers, the Holy Catholic Church will modify it's position, as necessary, to accommodate new revelations in science and religion. However, I am certain, beliefs in crop circles, paranormal, ufo's....etc. will always be science fiction. The Church exists to spread God's love to all mankind. May God bless your efforts to truly understand the ufo phenomenon.

Are the Extraterrestrial a problem for the Church?

Yes. A big problem, since, the day that the Scientifics of Earth discern that the Great Pyramid was built thanks to an Extraterrestrial Civilization, that day the mankind will discern that the Messiah they are waiting is really an Envoy of the Constructor of the Great Pyramid.
When this day arrive, the mankind will discern men were engaged for the Religions and they are waiting for false Messiah.

I'LL BE BACK!!

Welcome "on board" Sandra. I'll be leading the mission. When I return I'll bring GOD with. Most people haven't noticed the EXODUS of USO craft. You're very alert!!

leaving and coming back

Yes! the uso craft are leaving our oceans in frequent numbers because they know our planet is in trouble. However i know that they will be back in huge numbers to bring as much law and ORDER as possible right before GOD returns. I hope to be a part of this mission.Sa

That's RIGHT! And I suppose you think religion is real!!......Pleeeeeeeeeze!!!!!!!!

Yeah right! As if UFO's are real.

No evidence of UFOs?!....pleeeeze!!!

There are three main beliefs of Earth bound people on the subject of UFOs: Believers; who are convinced there are highly advanced life forms capable of coming to our planet from other starsystems. Second: Those who do not care, one way or the other. Third: Non-believers (skeptics), who think there is no credible evidence to support such claims. To the open minded; our histories, religion, and everyday experinces of observant individuals, are replete with such evidence. The mere thought some advanced alien life form may have, and stil, come to Earth with impunity, is just too frightenning to some. Like recalcitrant children, fearful of being called to account for their deeds by a superior or parent -- they deny such superiors exist. Consider this: Extraterrestrials evolved under different conditions than we did. They do not conform to familiar laws of protocal.
Why don't they make themselves known to governments? Why should they? Humans are no more interesting to them, as an ant colony would be to humans. When was the last time you tried communicating with an ant or even your pet. The motivations of most aliens are so far outside human understanding, even conveying the simplest communique of intentions, would be fruitless.

No evidence of UFOs?!....pleeeeze!!!

There are three main beliefs of Earth bound people on the subject of UFOs: Believers; who are convinced there are highly advanced life forms capable of coming to our planet from other starsystems. Second: Those who do not care, one way or the other. Third: Non-believers (skeptics), who think there is no credible evidence to support such claims. To the open minded; our histories, religion, and everyday experinces of observant individuals, are replete with such evidence. The mere thought some advanced alien life form may have, and stil, come to Earth with impunity, is just too frightenning to some. Like recalcitrant children, fearful of being called to account for their deeds by a superior or parent -- they deny such superiors exist. Consider this: Extraterrestrials evolved under different conditions than we did. They do not conform to familiar laws of protocal.
Why don't they make themselves known to governments? Why should they? Humans are no more interesting to them, as an ant colony would be to humans. When was the last time you tried communicating with an ant or even your pet. The motivations of most aliens are so far outside human understanding, even conveying the simplest communique of intentions, would be fruitless.

ONLY SCIENCE READS THE BLUEPRINT OF NATURE

The nexus between ufo's and religion is unscientific speculation. No credible scientific evidence exists which shows religious beliefs evolved from extraterrestial
encounters. However, many recent credible ufo sitings have been reported. Shouldn't we first verify that these ufo's are of extraterrestial origins and are possibly piloted by aliens? GIVE ME THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!

UFOs and religion

When religious text of the world were written, there was very little technological knowledge from which witnesses could draw conclusions. Just as Pacific Islanders who saw American supply aircraft during WW II, as gods, made straw fetishes of the planes, and worshiped them. The same can be said of the ancient prophets and apostles witnessing extraterrestrial craft thousands of years ago. Religion is simply the result
of human interpretation of these interactions. Taking these implications into consideration, with the possibility these alien beings were (are) highly evolved mentally, physically and spiritually -- with abilities far beyond human understanding, indeed, could have become as gods to them and ultimately, us. It it not beyond reason, they may have created humans and came among humans to guide us toward spiritual evolvement .

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Raelianism is a cesspool of unscientific nonsense.

Raelianism is an atheistic cult. Raelians believe all life on earth was created (scientifically engineered) by humans like us who came to earth thousands of years ago. This sounds logical, but where is any scientific proof?

Religions are believed. Believing is a human emotional thought process culminating in faith (a belief which is not based on scientific proof). The key to accepting any religious belief is engaging in an emotional thought process. On the other hand, accepting and acknowledging scientific evidence as truth is a pragmatic, unemotional (objective) thought process. Religious beliefs need human emotion for their existence. Science needs the absence of human emotional thought for its' existence. Mixing scientific and religious thought always pollutes science. Religions such as Raelianism, Scientology, Watch Tower Society (Jehovah Witnesses) ... etc., are a cesspool of unscientific nonsense that exist only to fulfill the emotional needs of humans.

UFOs and our E.T origins,RAEL-ELOHIM

Did you know that all life on earth actualy created by E.T called ELOHIM as writen in the first testement,and mistranslated to single GOD,bur ELOHIM in original hebrew is plural,ELOHA is singular,
ELOHIM created all life scintificly by manipulating DNA starcture ,all the genesis is actualy scintific,but coudnt be explain to primitive human beings with no tech and scince,is that make sense so far?
ELOHIM entrusted his last Messenger RAEL as promise in the old Bible in the times of Apocalipse ,I will revel the truth of our origins,thats why they called the reveletaion,
For more info please go to ( www.rael.org )
My name is Joe,I will be reached for questions at the ( jbraelian@aol.com )
I speak spanish,hebrew,english,turkish

destroying the belief system.

If the reason for the us government is to withhold UFO and ET information is the religious chaos it might cause, then maybe they should do the opposite - it would cast doubt not only on the christian religion, but islam and other beliefs would be discredited as well. This in turn would invalidate the very reasons for which terrorists blow up aircraft and buildings - problem solved!

Common sense

God created extraterrestrials, the stars, galaxies and universes and all that we do not know. Man's dream to create only a living cell out of NOTHING ,let alone a flea, a fly , man or elephant or DNA itself, is an eternal dream.
Jesus was a man, God' creation, not an extraterrestrial's creation.

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you mispelled bable..it should be bible.

Extra terestrials create all life on earth,THEY CALL ELOHIM(please correct my e-mail to jbraelian@aol.com)

7/2/2006 6:39:52 AM Extra terestrials create all life on earth,THEY CALL ELOHIM

Dear friends and people of earth,the last 33 yaers there is an ambasador of the ELOHIM among us,he is the last messanger of love peace and harmony,the ELOHIM they entrusted him with a very special mission,create and based on sensual meditation very high councesenes seminars which bring us the new way of life that couldnt be understood in middle ages,also ofcourse ceate a movement which will help to spread this new philosofy all man kind,and finaly build the Embassy of the ELOHIM(Third temple if you want to callit)The movement called RAELIAN MOVEMENT,The spiritual leader called by the name given to him from the ELOHIM our creators RAEL(The ligth of the ELOHIM on earth)you can cek us on www.rael.org www.clonaid.com all the books are free to download from internet ,my name is JOE and I speak spanish,english,turkish and hebrew,
I live in florida-fort lauderdale area and also responsable for spanish community,I will wait and cekout my personal e-mail also for your comments and questions (jbraelian@aol.com)
The revelation that promise in the Bible is happining rigth here rigth now,(THE LAST PROPHET IS WAITING WITH LOVE)the second coming as said is here,please open your eyes and try to understand,the Bible is completly mistranslated by primitive people,the creation is pure scintific,there is nothing supernatural,only scintific level of civilizations which they much more evolve then others,
Thakyou for reading this little message
LOVE PEACE AND HARMONY

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7/2/2006 6:39:05 AM Extra terestrials create all life on earth,THEY CALL ELOHIM

Extra terestrials create all life on earth,THEY CALL ELOHIM

Dear friends and people of earth,the last 33 yaers there is an ambasador of the ELOHIM among us,he is the last messanger of love peace and harmony,the ELOHIM they entrusted him with a very special mission,create and based on sensual meditation very high councesenes seminars which bring us the new way of life that couldnt be understood in middle ages,also ofcourse ceate a movement which will help to spread this new philosofy all man kind,and finaly build the Embassy of the ELOHIM(Third temple if you want to callit)The movement called RAELIAN MOVEMENT,The spiritual leader called by the name given to him from the ELOHIM our creators RAEL(The ligth of the ELOHIM on earth)you can cek us on www.rael.org www.clonaid.com all the books are free to download from internet ,my name is JOE and I speak spanish,english,turkish and hebrew,
I live in florida-fort lauderdale area and also responsable for spanish community,I will wait and cekout my personal e-mail also for your comments and questions (jbraelien@aol.com)
The revelation that promise in the Bible is happining rigth here rigth now,(THE LAST PROPHET IS WAITING WITH LOVE)the second coming as said is here,please open your eyes and try to understand,the Bible is completly mistranslated by primitive people,the creation is pure scintific,there is nothing supernatural,only scintific level of civilizations which they much more evolve then others,
Thakyou for reading this little message
LOVE PEACE AND HARMONY

Extra terestrials create all life on earth,THEY CALL ELOHIM

Dear friends and people of earth,the last 33 yaers there is an ambasador of the ELOHIM among us,he is the last messanger of love peace and harmony,the ELOHIM they entrusted him with a very special mission,create and based on sensual meditation very high councesenes seminars which bring us the new way of life that couldnt be understood in middle ages,also ofcourse ceate a movement which will help to spread this new philosofy all man kind,and finaly build the Embassy of the ELOHIM(Third temple if you want to callit)The movement called RAELIAN MOVEMENT,The spiritual leader called by the name given to him from the ELOHIM our creators RAEL(The ligth of the ELOHIM on earth)you can cek us on www.rael.org www.clonaid.com all the books are free to download from internet ,my name is JOE and I speak spanish,english,turkish and hebrew,
I live in florida-fort lauderdale area and also responsable for spanish community,I will wait and cekout my personal e-mail also for your comments and questions (jbraelien@aol.com)
The revelation that promise in the Bible is happining rigth here rigth now,(THE LAST PROPHET IS WAITING WITH LOVE)the second coming as said is here,please open your eyes and try to understand,the Bible is completly mistranslated by primitive people,the creation is pure scintific,there is nothing supernatural,only scintific level of civilizations which they much more evolve then others,
Thakyou for reading this little message
LOVE PEACE AND HARMONY

i want to know more

i have met people that have been to cananda and talk to indains that know so much about earth it is amazing. well a group of indians say they have seen aliens 6 feet away from them . they say they even have a language as well. the indians describe the encounters as if the aliens are as just as surprized to see them as they are to see the aliens. basically I think these aliens love to learn unlike us.

ET's and doomsday.

They live underground. When this planet will become inhabitable like Mars, because of a highly radioactive dense cloud that our tail end of our galaxy will go through, with no protective ability by our atmosphere to protect us, the little 3 foot grays will come out and will do to us what they did to the dinausors.....

Quran and UFO

well i am very intrested to know about UFOs in Quran GOD Almighty says yhere are many civilazations between heavens and earth and all they worship to your mighty Lord and if we will we can gather you all on one meeting point and then you know that your Lord is able to do that,To be a honestly there is too many articals about life on other planets and other mankind or civilizations in heavens and about creation of universe for exemple Quran says universe was only one big cloud of smoke or gas before and we exploid it in big bang andone after we shell do it again and decorate first heavens with lights and planets and all they are moveing in there owne orbits i think we must study to know more about life in universe in holy books in bible ,old book and in Quran.its very fantastic to know about all there un explainable histry.thanks

Are aliens less emotional?

Human emotion has 'guided' mankinds' thinking and imagination. Believing in an almighty and caring God, creator of this universe. is spiritually uplifting and gives purpose and meaning for mankinds' existence.
However, there is no scientific evidence for God. God is the mental image and emotion felt by anyone hearing, speaking or seeing the word-God. God like all other religious words only has an emotional meaning. Human thought 'guided' by emotions is inappropriate for the pursuit of science. Is alien thought more appropriate?

Man's concepts limitation in greatness

Why is it so hard for a human being to understand or accept that God created the Universe in which we live. There's a tendency by some people, to limit the greatness of God by lowering Him to the level of a humanoid. How about removing these limitations and visioning the Creator of the universe including the aliens, all of us and all that it contains, in a inconceivable way. In analogy, imagine where infinity is. hard to do.
Religion(not necessarily Christianity) , all forms of spirituality is universal, it is not an Earth thing, but a Universe thing and beyond.

DULCE UFO's ALIENS, and DEMONS.

I do believe that the governments of United states, Germany etc...
Are involved in black magic/combined with cutting edge science,
cloning ect..to grant devils physical license through having bodies.

There is now a VIDEO GAME about the topic.

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Religion focus

Perhaps, expanding views based on religions other than Christianity, in general, might bring to light, clues to the mysteries and incomprehension we are faced with in terms of the UFO and other extraordinary phenomena. I believe that religious bias towards other religions interferes with science , not religion itself. Religions are complex, but they are available to extract scientific clues. There is some truth in all religions. In my opinion, it does not take a wizard to understand the existence of life outside of our planet.
In terms of SETI - We are attempting to contact extraterrestrial life.They are here, all over. They hide from us, why? I would not trust them...and I dont.
We should rather Invest in human poverty, our own backyard, not SETI.
These intelligent, non-human creatures, are here for a purpose and it is not tourism especially when they have fleet of spaceships flying our skies, mutilating cattles to feed themselves (yes that is what they eat) , abducting us and even taking us for ever - one way ticket free trip. These are outrageous crimes and we say and do nothing about them.
UFOs are here...to stay! The UFO phenomena is serious and no religion should decide what science to believe in or not. If science proves right, then the religion should be put in question, not the science, or out of the ordinary observations.
Religions are supposed to maintain people morally sound ( a reminder of innate moral knowledge), to allow cohesively sain societies that form a harmonic world...(in Utopia perhaps).

Religion focus

Perhaps, expanding views based on religions other than Christianity, in general, might bring to light, clues to the mysteries and incomprehension we are faced with in terms of the UFO and other extraordinary phenomena. I believe that religious bias towards other religions interferes with science , not religion itself. Religions are complex, but they are available to extract scientific clues. There is some truth in all religions. In my opinion, it does not take a wizard to understand the existence of life outside of our planet.
In terms of SETI - We are attempting to contact extraterrestrial life.They are here, all over. They hide from us, why? I would not trust them...and I dont.
We should rather Invest in human poverty, our own backyard, not SETI.
These intelligent, non-human creatures, are here for a purpose and it is not tourism especially when they have fleet of spaceships flying our skies, mutilating cattles to feed themselves (yes that is what they eat) , abducting us and even taking us for ever - one way ticket free trip. These are outrageous crimes and we say and do nothing about them.
UFOs are here...to stay! The UFO phenomena is serious and no religion should decide what science to believe in or not. If science proves right, then the religion should be put in question, not the science, or out of the ordinary observations.
Religions are supposed to maintain people morally sound ( a reminder of innate moral knowledge), to allow cohesively sain societies that form a harmonic world...(in Utopia perhaps).

Religion and UFO`s

Every religious person i have questioned on the subject of ufo`s has told me that ufo`s are the work of the devil. Perhaps its time that the world recognize that there is such a thing as " Religious Induced Insanity " and that most of our world suffers from this form of mental illness.
"Religion" rules on earth equates to " Insanity" rules on earth.
"Insanity" equalls violence, have you looked at the condition of life on earth lately and for the last few thousand years.

EXTRA TERRESTRIAL LIFE

I AM A BELIEVER OF THE FACT THAT EXTRA TERRESTRIAL LIFE DOES EXIST. I AM WONDERING IF THERE IS ANY ASSOCIATION/SOCIETY IN WHICH I CAN BECOME A MEMBER ? I LIVE IN FORT MYERS, FL. I WOULD ALOS LIKE TO SEND ME THE LATEST NEWS AND INFORMATION REGARDING ALL THESE ASPECTS OF UFOS AND ALIEN LIFE.

Religious Aliens ??

Religions are believed. Believing is a human emotional thought process culminating in faith(a belief which is not based on scientific proof). The key to accepting any religious belief is engaging in an emotional thought process. On the other hand, accepting and acknowledging scientific evidence as truth is a pragmatic, unemotional thought process. Religious beliefs need human emotion for their existence. Science needs the absence of human emotional thought for its' existence. Scientific and religious thought do not mix. There is no scientific truth in any religion. Religions exist only to fulfill the emotional needs of humans. I wonder if intelligent beings from beyond Earth are as needy.

The Bible and extraterrestrials.

I have no problem if GOD (JEHOVAH), Jesus Christ and the Angels are alien beings.
They are no doubt millions of years ahead of us. The Bible does say GOD has existed since time indefinite.
GOD is GOD no matter what HE is and HE will still do what HE says in the Bible.

Archaeology has proven the Bible beyond doubt. Everything written in the Bible is found somewhere else.
The Romans the Greeks the Persians are found elsewhere.
No other religious book can lay claim to this.


Ezekiel chapter one describes what appears to be flying craft.
The Bible has many such descriptions.
Many people in the Bible spoke of GOD, Christ and the Angels as coming from and returning to the Heavens.
Christ himself spoke of his farther in the Heavens.

Jehovah here is described as a person (an Alien being).
Job 1:12 Accordingly Jehovah said to Satan:
“Look! Everything that he has is in your hand.
Only against him himself do not thrust out your hand!”
So Satan went out away from the person of Jehovah.


Job 16:19 Also now, look! in the heavens is one testifying about me,
And my witness is in the heights.

Psalm 2:4 The very One sitting in the heavens will laugh;
Jehovah himself will hold them in derision.

Psalm 11:4 Jehovah is in his holy temple.
Jehovah—in the heavens is his throne.

Psalm 115:3 But our God is in the heavens;
Everything that he delighted [to do] he has done.

Psalm 123:1 To you I have raised my eyes,
O You who are dwelling in the heavens.

Ecclesiastes 5:2 Do not hurry yourself as regards your mouth;
and as for your heart, let it not be hasty to bring forth a word before the [true] God.
For the [true] God is in the heavens but you are on the earth.
That is why your words should prove to be few.

Daniel 2:28 However, there exists a God in the heavens who is a Revealer of secrets,

Matthew 5:16 Likewise let YOUR light shine before men,
that they may see YOUR fine works and give glory to YOUR Father who is in the heavens.

Matthew 5:45 that YOU may prove yourselves sons of YOUR Father who is in the heavens,

Matthew 6:9 “YOU must pray, then, this way:
“‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’
will enter into the kingdom of the heavens,
but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.


THESE BEINGS WILL REVEAL THEMSELVES WHEN THEY ARE READY.

Psalm 37:8 Let anger alone and leave rage;
Do not show yourself heated up only to do evil.
9 For evildoers themselves will be cut off,
But those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth.

Terrorists, look out.

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Mystries

rwaing support for the explantion of unexplained phenomena on the eartn or in the universe, is not logical. There should be efforts to seek scientific explanations. Moreover, regarding UFOs and crop circles, I have my reservations that these have so far occured in USA, Canada, UK, only. If there are aliens, why they dont visit or leave their message etc in India/Pakistan/China where more than half of the earth's population lives.

UFOs

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WHO ARE WE? (Religion) Alien involvement in Human evolution and the time of disclosure is now but WHAT is needed to be spoken is truth.

We have a free will and when a deed to/or action brings a positive feel or out come it can be seen as a intelligent choice if the one doing is feeling this in his
heart. SOUL. Godly action. From Truth.

Our will to deceive and run from truth or hide due to pride and insecurity or greed based actions for reactions to gain these people's their own outcomes can only be described as Negative (DECEPTION) God doesn't lie but he gave us a choice and we choose him or the other and he knows we feel. This is Choice.

When man through this faith in the Positve out look acts with truth and insite we tend to see what reaction would come to as an outcome in Positve light. Think first and heart tells you what you feel is right. Intelligent it is! Pre thought of action before taken defines Intelligence. (Spooky huh?) Shows intent and the window shows the soul! We are not Gods and we will make mistakes. Thats called life and learning and feeling why? No feeling means no insight and no need for positive outcomes. This is a big difference. Forgiveness is the art of not allowing one self to judge. Positve outlook to fix the negative action so both can learn with out hate being bred. Wars woudn't happen.

Simple. Our souls are ours. We choose!

Who has the right to deceive that which is given by God for ourselves which we need to discover. If we have fellow creations (Beings) Intelligent and yet so Positive and clear that God to us is a source of Great Positive power to them then we are as one just on different levels of evolution. They probably started the same way with someone they see as messenger or JESUS!? In their evolution. The out come is the same. Positive or Negative.

Now we know the Greys we know they exist . Along with other races that exist and the truth is the public is getting sick of being treated like dumby's. It's about time to let us see about religion and it's own lies from the past and obvious grose abuse of public by governments and their with holding the truth, This will also need to be given disclosure. Now we need Godly people to unite man kind over the tune of the realisation of whom we are and we can be as a race. Then it would be a positive out look. But the lies are the proof that Evil is in charge and they don't want to lose power. Some short sighted fool made a deal with out letting the public know. In so doing he chose arms instead of spiritual growth. Now its biting us all on the butt.
All those soldiers that died in wars crying for God and they shoudn't of been sent there to battle when the answers were offered. Gods message and Intelligent beings that offered and are whatching us too.
Every man needs to see thou shalt not kill is merely advice. We as humans have free will to do what we choose. If every man said no way because killing is wrong in our hearts then there would never be guns in the first place. So who said follow a general who only wants to win a war when leaders start them by not seeing this point. Is it worth it.? Truth hurts but the lie deals straight from the sole.
For some if disclosure happened will need help from positive people and beings that are intelligent yet there message is the same. Positive thinking. Not Deceptive thinking based on greed. This will allow man to move to the next step higher to what we will see is the power God wants us to want to have but only if we FEEL why? No NEGATIVE Intentions! Simple... Positve not Negative

God is good. Only he could create multi demensions and give us a Soul to find them with our OWN choice of finding him to thank him for our gift of Soul and Love and also our will. This is Gods present he wants from us to give to him for what he has granted from him to us! We can share it and guide with it learn from it and help others grow from it. SO GODLY isn't it. But we are not Gods. We are apart of God and this is the distinction we need to see the most of. Greed is when you think you are better or deserve to be as a God. Being Godly is knowing who is God and knowing you are apart of him. His gift. Your Gift back to him. Goes both ways in this equation. Love grows forgiveness it allows growth and understanding. Greed only destroys. How much longer from all greedy people in power are we going to have to wait. I guess longer while they plan the plan to stay in power with their deceptions and then of course God will do some thing and don't be surprised it it isn't pretty when they take our souls and then leave theirs to learn it all again. Maybe they should ask us for help for once the public but in truth. Goodness in humanity can as one power stop more than you can imagine. Negative beings wouldn't handle us knowing who we are and especially if we are shown by our other friends in this big universe how to use it..!

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Possible life on Mars raises theological implications

The only thing evidently organic in Mars is the fart air that comes from a mad astronaut from his pants, he obviously must have captured his own gas throught that tight fitting high-tech suit.

UFOs and Extraterrestrials - A problem for the Church?

Since the beginning of human history, there had already been deception. Any material that is kept secret is not valid, that is why they keep it secret to amuse people, in the end, for profit. UFOs, no doubt, is one of them, if they exist, i shouldn't be crazy enough making this comment. Publicity all this is. Live long and prosper.

Bible v UFOs

I too have read a lot of the Bible years ago. Some things troubled me like
Moses his building of the Ark of the Covenant (Giant Capacitor) which may have been charged in the Kings Chamber of Kufu's Great Pyramid. The Ancient Egyptians also had arks which were high power capacitors.
The Bible states Moses was being influenced by God during his trip back to Egypt to begin demading that Seti 2nd release his people from bondage.
Alien Abuctions v. Virgin Mary
North Star above v. a UFO
Jesus, his miracles and resurection from the dead
In the Book of Revelations, Ezekiel's "wheels in wheels" writing is interesting at least.
Sodom & Gomora (Now they have found the city and its ashes and bones 5' below the present surface.
And there is so much more in those writings.

truth

although in other religions there is no trace of ufology,in islam there is a trace as a quote from quran says that "allah is the king of the worlds". here the last word states worlds not one world.

truth

although in other religions there is no trace of ufology,in islam there is a trace as a quote from quran says that "allah is the king of the worlds". here the last word states worlds not one world.

The Raelians

The Raelians books are one of the most controversial when it comes to religion and UFO; it’s available for FREE download on www.rael.org. Click on the book image in the upper left corner

The messages dictated to Rael explain how life on Earth is not the result of random evolution, nor the work of a supernatural 'God'. It is a deliberate creation, using DNA, by a scientifically advanced people who made human beings literally "in their image" what one can call "scientific creationism". References to these scientists and their work, as well as to their symbol of infinity can be found in the ancient texts of many cultures. For example, in Genesis, the biblical account of creation, the word "Elohim" has been mistranslated as "God" in the singular, but it is a plural, which means "those who came from the sky".

Bible v UFOs

Is there a link? I have read a lot of the old Testament where connections between the crafts/telepathy may have existed but its an awsome task to prove it. Between Moses and Jesus there was influence from somewhere.

jesus,rama,budda,and all other (vishnu's) son's of god

the truth of the matter is that all assended master who visited, and walked planet earth saw ufo's while here on earth, all even took off in them for preparation while living out a human life.It is in all ancient text,except munipulated by people who had control of these text,and miss understood.these beings in these ufo's work with galactic federation group under vishnu,and other god like beings.the truth is known by very few human's, all other don't want to know the real truth or they are scared.
love, and light erik the arcturian

Mistakes done by some Religions before......

Religion says: It is imposible for a man to go and land in the moon, but astronauts did it.....

Religion says: The Sun revolves around the Earth, but Science proved that the Earth revolves around the Sun......

Another Thing......

I think it is also impossible for the Aliens to visit here on Earth because Interstellar Travelling is impossible......

RELIGION & UFO'S

There is not a problem between religion and extraterretrials. God created the universe. Of course if aliens are not believers so what? We have in Earth many non believers. I think that is a false problem.